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http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g36/c15 ... Page1.htmlThey do help. The pwm's can get hot- that is the setting on the mobo or guru that is monitored. And maybe depends on what cpu you are using. I think you can run a 125w cpu on the an9 32x etc. But they was not really built for it- thus or mostly for that reason the am2+ was born and could better handle the 125 or maybe 140w cpu's.
I would love to have 1 of the x2 6000 I think it was, it was 3gig and 2mb cache and only 89w like most all other am2 cpus. I am not really sure it is any other real differences in am2 or am2+ as far as pins or shape what ever go. Other than 1 uses more wattage and motherboards was made to handle it.. AM3 was the real change, but even then. You can get amd mobos that can run all 3 the am2 am2+ and am3 cpu's and some I think could use either ddr or ddr2. I am not sure about any ddr3 combos, maybe it is.. But again The p2's etc are 140w cpus if I remember right or some was. I think the later are more like 125w.
But Back. I ran my fatality and 2.4 2mb cache with lil oc no voltage increases etc. with out the fans on the mobo. I sealed off the back out etc. But I used a thermal right si128 [top down] cooler. It blows air over the area and memory too, so.
All I do is game. stress testing with prime is as hard as it will ever work. Temps on my pwm's never got over 141f or so. Heat is not really good for anything, less is best. But you are talking from 180 to say 220f before burn or actual damage to say pcb so.. 180f is panic time. normally your cpu will shut down if it hits 180f etc. but can go on up to like 220 before it really is hurt.. But heat makes things run less effiecient cuts it to half power maybe even more and has to work harder at that.
I hated it and put them back on. Been running 2 more years. the mobo cpu and mem was a gift from here. But ya the lil fans can make lil nosies. You can get near same fans at frozen cpu for like 16 bucks each. They are 20mm deep fans by the way. Ya I think thats right. Its like 3 sizes 10- 20 and 25mm maybe a 30mm I cant remember now. But I know it was not the 30mm- I was just saying is all. I think I bought and tried to fit a 60mm 25mm deep fan- it was too thick- other than that - I think I could have fit it in- low nosie and like 18cfm I think it was. I almost rigged up a 80mm from out of the case thinking about noise or if they break- you have to remove the mobo from the tray to get to the fans- suck. And it is hard to find them and or move enough air and be pretty quite. The ones at frozen cpu are sweet and are same fan my Swiftech mcx159r nb cooler uses. They have both the monitor wire or not fans. If you order from there make sure you check. You will want the ones with the monitor wire. They cost the same if I remember right. I might buy some someday. But I just built this new intel system. My fatality is back up now.. Might run some times is about it.. And on xp sp3 until its not supported any more, so.
I think these fans specs are 7cfm at 16dp so quite. But If your case has massive positive pressure air flow- means more in forced in, more than fans pushing/pulling out. You might not need the fans. Leave the vents open. It pushes air out of the case versus exhausting fans and extra powerful cpu fans causing a vacuum in the case and sucking air in from every crack etc, and more dust and dirt with it. Most all fans on a case should be turned in, filter them and seal off all else you can. Heat is forced out. Air in is filtered- case is cleaner and cooler. Old thinking is some even flow in/out or more out. They get dirty faster.. But heat rises too. I think 1 120mm out and the psus have a 120 if not larger fans. Also massive possitive pressure forces out air past fans. they have to work less hard on their own, air forced past them even spins them for them., but not fast enough to hurt them over what they are rated for. Or normally any way.. Its not like blowing air in a can over them.. Intake vents should be cut out on cases, they alone can slow cfm by half and or filters do the same. It is easy to get way less air in than out fans are moving- vacuum time..
Same token- old case - old way of thinking. A negitive pressure case a vacuum can pull air in past low speed out fans and even in through psus etc. The psus get filled with dust and dirt. but not from the air in the case going out. Ha ha.. I say if same size fans, you should have 2 more intake than out and more powerful than cpu and out fan. I find that if cpu and out and psu fans are close they can whine off of each other. The psu is normally the slowest fan. I set my out fan more powerful than my cpu fan or they might whine or even all 3 together.. But I would like to add another 120mm intake. I have 2x 120mm intakes now, and 1x 120mm out plus the psu has a 140mm fan- but always runs slow so.. It still gets dirty, more than it should. I did stop smoking in my room etc. Helps a lot.. Humidity can turn dirty filters into stucco. Dry up like mud on a hot day. No more air at all through them. No more dirt or nothing else Ha ha..
Ha ha ya. I have talked enough. Gees I have been typing for hours here. Gives me something to do etc. And seems few folks hang out here. I will try and keep the blood pumping in its heart. Ha ha
My fatality an9-32x was give to me used- said ran folding 24/7. I have pretty much ran it 24/7 for over 2 years on same fans- gaming what ever- I do not turn them off much.. No real noises other than cold start or they are changing speeds I might hear a lil whine. But never any high pitch or dying now sounds..
Here is a link. I hope I helped some. You might be able to live with out them. but is best to use them. Or I think so any way..>
Hmm That is not really the fan I got before. It is a lil less powerful. But most anything under 7 cfm should be pretty quite. or sound goes up to say 19- 22 and over 40 db. most standard 80mm fans push near 24 cfm at near 26db. You can break even on sound and power. I seen 1 I think 10.5 cfm @22db. So that is 21 cfm air moving over the pwms... Ya I guess the fans on the mobo is more powerful than the fan on my nb cooler. not much tho. or you would really hear them. like lil turbos. Now I mostly hear them during cold start. or they are slowing down a lil maybe. I have other noise going, they do not really bother me. If 1 dies I will think about it more, maybe.. Ha ha the mobo or guru starts its fire truck warning nosies..>
see ya..
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