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AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Namnar » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:44 pm

Grettings all...
This is my virgin post !!!

I've installed a Phenom 9650 onto my AN-M2HD with BIOS 20 and it actually works quite well. It benchmarks slightly under what a few benchmark programs say a 9650 should do which is OK for me.... I mainly bought it for HD video processing.

The trouble that I'm having..... (I upgraded from an Athlon 64 4800 X2) Is that the CPU reports 60° at idle, with the clock freq @ 1/2 speed with cool & quiet enabled. This also matches the BIOS temp. When I monitor the core temps with Everest or Speedfan, the cores are around 38 - 40° at idle. I was using the stock heat sink with Arctic Slver 5. I unseated it, cleaned and added new paste but got the same result. I upgraded the heat sink to just a slightly better copper model but this only gave me a 2 - 3° difference in all temps. When I run the CPU at 100% (Video processing) The reported CPU temp gets to 88°, (The mobo shuts down at 90°) and the Everest core temps report 59°. I do not see any performance issues. I have the mobo bios to the latest at Ver 20. I can revert back to 19 which is the earliest that supported the AM2+ CPU's. I havent tried that yet.

I sent an email with all of my test results to ABIT but got no response. I also spoke with AMD. The advice there was to esure that the heat sink has good paste and is seated correctly. Feel the bottom of the heat sink at idle. If it is hot to the touch then the reported temps may be real. My cooler is not not hot at all, at idle. It is luke-warm. He then said to run the cpu at 100% for 10 minutes and feel it again. If the CPU is truly at 80°, it will be very hot to burning to the touch which makes sense i suppose :-)

Other notes - The mobo also reports case temp and PWM temp which are 32° and 42° respectively, at idle. I've also seen similar issues in forums with other ABIT boards and phenom CPU's.


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Greybear » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:47 pm

ABiT is DEAD!

But mind listing the rest of your hardware specs. What voltage are you applying to the CPU? It maxes at 1.25V on Requirements, when running less voltage than it needs it causes a heat increase, same with when the PSU is not supplying enough.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Mr. Chris » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:00 am

Welcome to the Forums! First off, I don't trust Abit EQ, so I rely on both Speed Fan and Core Temp. If they both show the same temps, I'm o.k. with that. BIOS will still not read correctly, tho.

I have 4 Phenom's running Folding @ Home, which uses 100% of all the cores. Using the stock cooler was a joke. I got the Cooler Master Hyper TX2 and all my quads run at 70c full load as reported by Abit EQ, and about 20c less as reported by Speed Fan or Core Temp.

You could try the v.19 BIOS, but I kinda doubt it will be any different. And of course you can disable the alarms and/ or change the alarm/ shutdown temps as well. Chris.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Mr. Chris » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:27 pm

Also, make sure your RAM timings and voltage is set correctly, here's a Guide I wrote: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=259 Chris.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Namnar » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:28 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

Some of the other specs are.....

PSU - Enermax 320 MATX With a 24A rail on +12
Mem = 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 With Timings at 5-5-5-18
2 X 250GB HD's
1 x DVD RW
Wireless Blue tooth on USB & various memory sticks from time to time


Voltages as reported by ABIT EQ
CPU Core = 1.18v
Mem = 2.02v
CPU VTT = 1.28 <--- WTF is that?
Chipset Core = 1.28
ATX +12 = 12.03
ATX +3.3 = 3.25

Everest pretty much matches those voltages


All of the voltage settings as per the BIOS are set to Auto or default.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Namnar » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:58 pm

I raised the CPU voltage to 1.25 (1.27 measured) and it raised the measured CPU temp to 73°, Albeit I think thats still a false temp but given that raising the CPU voltage causes an upward trend in temperature, I think I'll leave it at "default" for now.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Greybear » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:52 am

Try lowering it as low as 1.05....What are the speeds of the CPU fan and the system fan?

24x12=360watt : Please tell me that Enermax 320 doesnt mean 320watt, cause something is seriously wrong then.
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Namnar » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:20 am

Greybear wrote:Try lowering it as low as 1.05....What are the speeds of the CPU fan and the system fan?

24x12=360watt : Please tell me that Enermax 320 doesnt mean 320watt, cause something is seriously wrong then.


Ummmm 12 X 24 = 288 on yank calculators !! Is yours on the metric system or something? :-)

It seems that "default" on the mobo is the lowest voltage option. It only allows you to raise the voltage from default in +0.025 increments.

Heres the PSU if you are interested.
http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/produ ... 81434405ff
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Greybear » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:02 pm

hehehe (beats head on desk)

320-288 = 32 ?!?!?!
3.3 x 20 = 66 ?!?!
5 x 22 = 110 ?!?!

320 - 66 - 110 = 144???


144 / 12 = 12amps???

its either gonna supply the 3.3 and 5 volt rails or it not. Why would they state these values if its not going to give them.

But...What are your fan speeds and what cooler are you using?

When you disable DEFUALT or AUTO, what value is actually there?
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Re: AN-M2HD With Phenom 9650 - High Temps Reported

Postby Namnar » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:17 pm

Perhaps the PSU is making an assumption that all outputs wont rai at the same time. I'm not sure. This PSU has been pretty solid and it has ran a 95w CPU on this mobo with no problems before this one.

ABIT EQ Fan Speeds
CPU fan - 2722 rpm
SYS Fan - 1028 rpm
AUX1 Fan - 2721 rpm
AUX2 Fan - 2812 rpm

I don't remember if the CPU voltage setting was actually "default" or "auto". I wont be able to mess with that until I get home. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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