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SCAVENGER1 wrote:hiya Chuck, and thanks for the link

so you think that bios 18 would be better over all then bios 17 ?

Well.
The thing about some of these ABIT motherboards is that you don't know until you test it out.
When I had my IP35 PRO/Q6600, none of the late BIOS versions ran the system as well as BIOS 11 so i kept going back, but there were builders that swore by 16.
Then I had another one with an E8400 that was happiest with B16.09 and not an official version.
Happened all over the place.
The inconsistency is unreal.

On a side note, i remember there was a model, Abit IP35 if my memory didn't fail me is having rebooting issue? And was iron out after they come out with a new bios

well with abit not doing mobo any more it sure doesnt help any more ya know. and i did find that post once again over at xtremesystem and got both modded bios the 17 and 18 but not sure if i should try them or not.

since i am not use to flashing since most time with this mobo i just stayed with bios 14 since my 6850 was super happy and like they say there and other places "if it aint broke" lol yup been there broke that before it did it self.

right now it looks like the 3.2ghz is going to past the OCCT test of 1hr with it set to medium data set. before it would not make it past 5 seconds lol. i might just get a handle on this quad after all if i can under stand this part on this.

all i need now is what the max voltages on this cpu that can be used for the long term use? i would like to hit the 3.6ghz but with out the hurting of it via the voltage over use ya know. which i did not see in that thread over in xtremsystems forum.

Let me get all of this straight.
You are using an IP35 PRO?
You are using BIOS 14?

chuck4456 wrote:Let me get all of this straight.
You are using an IP35 PRO?
You are using BIOS 14?

i am using abit IP 35 Pro with bios #17

OK.
I'm back.
BIOS 17.
OK.
Then the q9450 is supposed to work.
4 x 2048 GB is 8 gigs of RAM.
That's a lot to overclock and it's going to take some MCH Voltage to do it, if it can be done.
Is it not stable with 3.2GHZ?
What exactly are you trying to do?
Get more CPU/RAM Speed?

well what i want to do is hit 3.6ghz stable and if it is do able have it has a 24/7 type thing ya know. but it may be a lot to ask for out of it ya know. i am at 3.2ghz right now and very stable and since someone said to up the mch which i did i then up the rest to the same amount as well

so now my voltage settings are like this

400 x8 1:1.00 = 800
cpu core - 1.35
ddr2v - 2.10
cpuvtt - 1.16 was 1.13
mch - 1.41 was 1.33
ich - 1.12 was 1.05
ichio - 1.55
ddr2ref - 0%
gtrref 0/2 - 67%
gtrref 1/3 - 67%

so far so good but this is still only 3.2ghz i want to hit 3.6ghz and if not 4ghz if that is even possible on this chip and mobo

SCAVENGER1 wrote:well what i want to do is hit 3.6ghz stable and if it is do able have it has a 24/7 type thing ya know. but it may be a lot to ask for out of it ya know. i am at 3.2ghz right now and very stable and since someone said to up the mch which i did i then up the rest to the same amount as well

so now my voltage settings are like this

400 x8 1:1.00 = 800
cpu core - 1.35
ddr2v - 2.10
cpuvtt - 1.16 was 1.13
mch - 1.41 was 1.33
ich - 1.12 was 1.05
ichio - 1.55
ddr2ref - 0%
gtrref 0/2 - 67%
gtrref 1/3 - 67%

so far so good but this is still only 3.2ghz i want to hit 3.6ghz and if not 4ghz if that is even possible on this chip and mobo

I think it's doable.
3.6 that is.
Temperature will be the big thing.
All depends on how much past the 1.3625V threshold ya go to get her stable at 450.
Just leave the ICH & ICHIO where they are.
Use a tRFC/REFRESH CYCLE of 53.
The DOMINATORS. Are they all of the same Revision?
You'll probably have to leave the RAM with a 1:1 cuz it's so much.
Just leave the CPU VTT at stock (1.10?) You usually don't need to up that until around 415 - 420 and then just move it to 1.20V and leave it.
See how far you can go on the CPU & MCH Voltage you are now using.
Go 10mhz/pop.
Remember that 99% of the IP35 PRO motherboards undervolt so you are probably actually giving the CPU a little less than you think. That's not etched in stone.
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get the CPU stable with 1.40V Vcore tops.
Run PRIME 95 Blend. First set. If it stops, take the MCH to 1.44V. If you can get it to pass the first set of BLEND then as a result (9 times out of 10) you will know where you stand with your memory. Your memory is probably going to be OK as long as it can pass those 1024s.
Watch those temps.

chuck4456 wrote:

SCAVENGER1 wrote:well what i want to do is hit 3.6ghz stable and if it is do able have it has a 24/7 type thing ya know. but it may be a lot to ask for out of it ya know. i am at 3.2ghz right now and very stable and since someone said to up the mch which i did i then up the rest to the same amount as well

so now my voltage settings are like this

400 x8 1:1.00 = 800
cpu core - 1.35
ddr2v - 2.10
cpuvtt - 1.16 was 1.13
mch - 1.41 was 1.33
ich - 1.12 was 1.05
ichio - 1.55
ddr2ref - 0%
gtrref 0/2 - 67%
gtrref 1/3 - 67%

so far so good but this is still only 3.2ghz i want to hit 3.6ghz and if not 4ghz if that is even possible on this chip and mobo

I think it's doable.
3.6 that is.
Temperature will be the big thing.
All depends on how much past the 1.3625V threshold ya go to get her stable at 450.
Just leave the ICH & ICHIO where they are.
Use a tRFC/REFRESH CYCLE of 53.
The DOMINATORS. Are they all of the same Revision?
You'll probably have to leave the RAM with a 1:1 cuz it's so much.
Just leave the CPU VTT at stock (1.10?) You usually don't need to up that until around 415 - 420 and then just move it to 1.20V and leave it.
See how far you can go on the CPU & MCH Voltage you are now using.
Go 10mhz/pop.
Remember that 99% of the IP35 PRO motherboards undervolt so you are probably actually giving the CPU a little less than you think. That's not etched in stone.
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get the CPU stable with 1.40V Vcore tops.
Run PRIME 95 Blend. First set. If it stops, take the MCH to 1.44V. If you can get it to pass the first set of BLEND then as a result (9 times out of 10) you will know where you stand with your memory. Your memory is probably going to be OK as long as it can pass those 1024s.
Watch those temps.

no the dominator's are 2 dif version. but they worked before with the E6850 though.

i know the ich is south bridge but what is the ichio ?

and then the cpuvtt for the 3.6ghz i need to take it up more or leave it? and yeah i will leave the ram set to 1:.00 since the memory controller sucks and it wont boot with anything else that is higher then a 1000 or more anything lower then 1000 it will. i found out the hard way

i dont have prime 95 but i do have OCCT v3.1.0 which is what i have use before in the past. since i like how it will monitor your temps for you by it self. and this new version can do gfx card stress test as well.

and as for temps i am glad i redid my water cooling so it can take it a bit more and i have add a fan to the pwm to help it. wish i could have water cool the mobo out when i had the funds to do it a few yrs ago. oh well.

ill have to give this a try and see some time tonight or in the morning. i am thinking of trying that bios 18 or the mod bios 18 to see if it will be better. but so far the 17 is ok and since i got the ide delay set to 3 i can get into bios with no problem with my merc stealth .

ICH Voltage supplements the SB/PCIE.
ICHIO is SB I/O Voltage.
Normally the only time that you'll need to increase those is when you have a massive hard drive array and decide to add a second video card.
The primary video card transmits its data straight thru to the NB.
The secondary video card goes a roundabout way to transmit its data, going thru the SB first. That explains bandwidth limitations.

So there may be an extra load on the SB which requires a voltage bump.